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Greer

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I was thinking about it earlier... who do you have unfixable heat with?

Thinking about it, I think I only have heat with two people anymore, Matt Rodgers and Will Tocci. Maybe Jon still, but hopefully not.

Rodgers hates me because Justin got me back into the WfWA despite me "being a bully" and Tocci is still bitchy because I told him he never had an original idea and only had any "success" in the game after everyone else had already left and he was the only one still clinging to the balls of the NeWA. Those two hold a grudge.

Even Jeffro tolerates me even though he doesn't like me and we have very different viewpoints on just about everything.

But seriously, who do YOU have heat with?

And do I still have heat with anyone?
 

JeffOLW

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I don't dislike you, not sure why you think that. I'm a little grumpy about you bailing on the Greer/Long feud, but I'm a little grumpy about a lot of other things too.

I have heat with Kevin, I guess. He wanted me to help him bash Defiance on facebook and when I ignored him he defriended me. I didn't care. Fuck him.

I've got heat with a guy named Joshua Lee for some shit that happened back in OLW. I don't know if he's still alive, but he applied ot the WfWA and I had to pull out my epeen and say that nobody was allowed to hire him.
 

Jonathan Todd

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Heat? I can only think of one person and that would be Chris gipson and that happened a lifetime ago and I can not recall over what. Other than that everyone I have ever been pissed at had been because im a hot head, but like a firework it ends pretty darn quickly. So no beef within this feed, that means you greer.
 

Bad Mofo

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Jeff might've been grumpy with me I'm sure, but it's never personal. He's always cool and straight with me when we chat. Plus I've stuck around a lot longer now that DEF is angle and I don't have to worry about writing as many roleplays as I once did. Or promoing my ass off but not being satisfied with the angle. I've been around now probably as long as I've been around with both my combined tenures there.

I don't think I have heat with anybody outside of maybe Col maybe for flaking? Not sure. I saw him name me as one of the "worst" handlers in the WfWA on the old DEFiance boards. But that stems from shit ten years past and I bailed, but the shit-uation I was in at the time wasn't the greatest either.

Maybe Meth? I'll always love the fact that London Freemantle and Billy Deserati had that bit of a rivalry going for them. Went from NeWA to WfWA (briefly) with Thomas Bane. Back when Obama got elected he said something about a revolution and guns, then took off, I might've made a joke, I don't remember... four+ years will do that.

I've probably blocked Justin once or twice? I couldn't tell you the reason why. We're cool peoples now.

Same with Dan Pollaski when he had a meltdown.

I could say and think maybe Gipson rubbed me the wrong way. Mostly because he wanted to have a match with me and/or Justin. Cage/Woods/Dane would've been his dream rp match. I wasn't that interested though, not in the story, not in the challenge or anything else.

I honestly don't know and doubt I have any beef with anyone at this point. And if I do, I've probably forgotten about it.
 

SenorJames

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GREER!
I hate that guy because he won't come back and play with us! Stop being an adult with responsibilities you FAGGOT and get back here. This place is awesome and perfectly setup for you to have fun with it again.

Oh. You mean real heat?

How about this douchebomb of a faggoteer.

Sean Onken, head of OCW in the WfWA.
This fuckstick once had the balls to tell Ken that the reason he jobbed him was because HE WAS TOO GOOD and that it was UNFAIR TO PUSH HIM over people he was clearly better than. He pretty much killed whatever was left of Ken's enthusiasm for writing and interest in the game for years, until recently when I introduced him to what DEFIANCE is doing now.

As for anyone else?

Maybe Charles Fraga for pre-caving to OOC pressure when I legitimately won the NeWA World Title from McQ (WidowMaker), who even told me that he felt I deserved the win, which is where the Christian Light Incident heat comes from, it was created because of OOC bullshit. Fraga pulled an IC stunt where he as VP stripped Ty of the World title, all because he felt like the OOC culture of the NeWA at the time (total cool kids club) would revolt and not accept that I won the top title. So fuck that noise, I bailed on the NeWA, stuck with CeWF until what John, Kid Cap and myself had finished what we were running and when that was over, I bailed.

Funny this about the above is that it soured me on everything NeWA. It took Stevie to get me to join ACW, because I didn't know Justin yet, just that he was a top NeWA player (never followed the early WfWA during "the exodus"). The same goes for two guys who I have immense respect for, Ken and Brian P, who are both two of the nicest, smartest and best writers you could ever know in the game. I thought both of them must surely be huge ego having douchefags, until I got to know both of them, now it's an occasional chuckle when that gets brought up.

There was the Brittany Fox dude who accused me of using politics and receiving favoritism, which blew up in his face when the entire ACW roster jumped on the guys ass (including Meth). The same goes for the chick who originally handled Jane, she pulled something similar and Greer fucking torched her and a few others also told her to shut up. I don't even remember what the Jane stuff was about, but I remember making amends with her personally.

Had occasional bitchfests with both Justin and Stevie, but we all have hearts for each other so it never lasts.

Dunno, other than that, I have stayed relatively neutral unless provoked, though I always did like watching a good internet bonfire when happened on the WfWA ooc.
 

BigPimpin

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If there's any heat on me, it's not reciprocated. Any beef I had with anyone else in the game is either too petty for me to continue to acknowledge it or it got squashed. I get more angry about competitive stuff like wins and losses, but in e-dub that stuff is short-lived for me.
 

JeffOLW

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You know, if James hadn't mentioned it I'd have forgotten about this, but.

Michael Lennox and Sean O.

The backstory is that back in my CAL days, I let the CAL Executive board bend over backwards to rob one of my handlers of the CAL World Title. (A few of you guys know that dude as the guy who handled Eduardo Domingo). He was softspoken, didn't play efed drama, and just took it. Afterwards, I swore I would never again fail to stand up for a handler who didn't want to fight.

So, Michael Lennox.

Python won the Double Crown Title, I don't remember if it was off of Lennox, or he won it off someone else and successfully defended it against Lennox. Either way, Lennox hit the OOC board with a wide open mouth, talking all this shit about how he let Python win the match (he didn't, it was one of the most lopsided beatdowns on the RP boards ever). There was a second match for the Double Crown, a four way dance with Python, Lennox, CJ Rowell, and TC Jagger. Lennox came in dead last in the judging. But the fed that Jagger was part of had just left the Alliance, so Jagger took the pinfall instead of Lennox. Which then caused Lennox to start claiming that it was "angled" or "political" that Python won.

That was when I started calling Lennox's ass out.

Myself and one of my OLW handlers, a guy named Daemon Curtis, went to Sean O.'s OCW for a tag match with Lennox and Rowell. Now I didn't trust Sean O. already and I told Curtis what we were in for. So we went down to OCW, and kicked Lennox and Rowell's asses. I know this because I saw all three judge comments (it wasn't like we trusted Sean O. to grade the match fairly). The judges said that Andrews and Curtis were to win clean. Sean simply ignored that and came up with this finish where Rowell and Lennox had Andrews and Curtis beaten, and then some other guy came out and attacked Andrews/Curtis to cause Rowell/Lennox to lose by DQ.

OCW was about to get kicked out of the Alliance anyway, so Shearer begged me to just let it go. I told Lennox and Sean off on the OOC, but didn't try to make him change the match.

Then at Summer Games 2007, Jeff Andrews was on Team OLW and Lennox was on Team OCW, and Jeff Andrews kicked the shit out of Lennox and pinned him to win it for Team OLW.

Lennox left ewrestling after that. Sean O. went to the NeWA for about 5 minutes, then went AWOL like he'd been doing off and on for months and that was the end of OCW.
 
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Bad Mofo

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I 'aint got heat with NOOOOOOObody.

Aim to keep it that way.

I wish all you bitches would fight less. (much love)


I'm constantly amazed at the sheer amount of content we've all produced DESPITE the fact we're all constantly rage-fighting.

YOU DO WITH ME NOW BISH.

*uncaps pen and chucks it across the room*

NO ONE BEATS ME FOR FEEDBACK POSTS. NO ONE!
 

SenorJames

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Michael Lennox and Sean O.

This is the second time that I have heard this story. I still get "really, that guy?" because it's so off from what I remember, then again, I don't remember really ever talking to the guy much.

Only times I can remember talking to him is when he congratulated me on whippin' dat ass to win the ACW title and when we were doing these Lennox/Walker rps around the time Brian P had taken C2W and moved it to Nevada.
 

JeffOLW

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Sean O. spent all his time telling Lennox (and Rowell, who I liked) how awesome they were and how stupid everyone else was for not recognizing their brilliant veteranness or veteran brilliance. Maybe Sean's stupid had rubbed off on Lennox? If Lennox was a pretty cool guy back in the day I don't know what to say, but Justin and Aaron can confirm this story happened just the way I told it.
 

SenorJames

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Sean O. spent all his time telling Lennox (and Rowell, who I liked) how awesome they were and how stupid everyone else was for not recognizing their brilliant veteranness or veteran brilliance. Maybe Sean's stupid had rubbed off on Lennox? If Lennox was a pretty cool guy back in the day I don't know what to say, but Justin and Aaron can confirm this story happened just the way I told it.

Totes, homie. I got no reason to not trust ya on this.
 

Bad Mofo

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Sean O. spent all his time telling Lennox (and Rowell, who I liked) how awesome they were and how stupid everyone else was for not recognizing their brilliant veteranness or veteran brilliance. Maybe Sean's stupid had rubbed off on Lennox? If Lennox was a pretty cool guy back in the day I don't know what to say, but Justin and Aaron can confirm this story happened just the way I told it.

I kind of LOL when I hear this, not for any of the reasons you think.

But Sean O, OCW Sean O? He *never* read roleplays.

Like ever.

Like at all.

He's never read a single fucking roleplay. I had Billy fuckin' Deserati there when I was still rip-roaring and promoing my ass off. And Sean "confided" that he never read a single fucking rp. He always got someone else to read and judge his cards. He probably warped Tim, in all honesty. Tim had been pretty fucking laid back in the years prior to that and I haven't heard of a single instance of him complaining about the results of a match. He would've been a "better" fed head in an angle fed, where roleplays weren't involved in all honesty.

I've chatted with Tim ever since I won the WfWA World Heavyweight off him back in the day. The only way I could see Tim getting worked up about anything is if someone's telling him to and they're doing it waaaay too often, really. I mean, we're talking about a guy who gave me the go ahead to cut a promo from inside his character's private home, drinking his juice, and fondling his wife's panties. It's a shame that you two have heat with each other.
 
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Greer

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Yeah, I never had an issue with Tim either, which is weird. He must have lost his mind after Justin banged his lady.
 

JeffOLW

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I thought of another story. This is more of a case where the other guy has heat with me and I'm just like "lol ok".

Vince Webb.

He and I crossed paths years ago in the CAL. Vince was handling Malik Johnson and teaming with a guy named Brad Manson in a fed called the KWF (which was originally created by former DEF handler Johnny Hotrod, but by this time had been taken over by a douchebag named Ruben).

Johnson and Manson were called the Mid South Syndicate, and they were to Ruben what Randy Orton is to Triple H - midcarders receiving undeserved pushes because the boss likes them. Back then Johnson was fairly well regarded, but Manson was a less talented version of CVC without the willingness to sell. He wrote shock value shit very badly and jacked off over how 'controversial' he was. Ruben actually ran good handlers out of KWF because he booked his shows around Mid-South Syndicate, and pissed off the CAL Executive Board because every suggestion he had involved glorifying the Mid-South Syndicate.

Anyway, my old IWA and KWF did an interpromotional event, and Manson caused trouble and got jobbed.

KWF closed very shortly after that, and none of the other CAL feds would hire Manson, and so Manson quit efeds and Vince either went straight to the WfWA, or to the WfWA via the NeWA, not sure which. This all would've been around early 2003.

I didn't know that Vince held a grudge against me until I got to the WfWA. I was in Flying Chris's Appalachian Wrestling as Ronnie Long, and Vince was handing Malik Johnson as part of a tag team and a singles wrestler named CRIP. I got pretty much pushed straight to the top of the card because I was actually doing work, and Vince got very pissy and wrote some shoot-ish RPs complaining that I hadn't earned my spot. He wrote the same shootish RPs on me during my 1 card run in Def 1.0 as the Vermont State Catamounts. Then I started beating him everywhere, I beat him as Long in AW, beat him as the Andrews/Long tag team in one of Blue's Tag Wars cards, beat him with someone really early on in Defiance, and he abruptly quit the promotion and as far as I know never efedded again.
 

Greer

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Now this makes me want to do a post of every time I've had bad heat with someone, squashed or not.

This might take a while.
 

SenorJames

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Now this makes me want to do a post of every time I've had bad heat with someone, squashed or not.

This might take a while.

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