We've been invited to the WeWA

[Justin]

So, we've been invited to the WeWA to be their South-Eastern region.

For those of you who came up in the NWC/CAL/NeWA/WfWA, you know pretty much all of what this means. For the rest of you, basically it's run like the oldschool NWA territorial system, with touring champions and giant inter-promotional supercards and the like.

WHAT THIS WOULD MEAN IF YOU'RE INTERESTED: The WeWA titles and events are to be roleplayed for. I think they may even use strats, you'd have to look. I figure some of you might have the itch to stretch those roleplaying muscles, and this would be a good place to do it.

WHAT THIS WOULD MEAN IF YOU'RE NOT INTERESTED: Nothing. Seriously. You wouldn't be involved.

Feel free to ask questions in this thread, and vote how you feel. In the long run nothing will change in the day-to-day operations of DEF, I'd just have to host title matches every now and again which I'm quite sure would be no issue.

EDIT: Feel free to explain your vote in this thread.

 

[Jonathan Todd]

You missed the option of Meh, don't care one way or the other.

 

[Justin]

I don't deal in neutralities. If you could care less, vote Yes but you're not interested.

We'll need a certain amount of interested parties before it does us or them any good, but there's no reason throwing down a "no" vote unless you mean it.

 

[SenorJames]

I put that I am interested in both ends of this deal, but it's more between both participating and not participating on my end. I absolutely think it could be a good move for us as a group though, exposure and whatnot.

But as I've told Tocci, my commitment to DEFIANCE will always come first and second and everything else will be dependent on how that's going.

 

[Justin]

I personally think it could be both fun, as the vast majority of us "came up" in interfeds, and a good opportunity for us to both "give back" by helping the WeWA out and get some more eyes on our product.

Believe me, I wouldn't even post the poll if I thought this couldn't be good for both sides.

I do already get all the negatives, and those are all valid. That's why the votes are set up the way they are.

Anyhow, I'm not gonna force anything, this decision belong to you guys and gals.

 

[Bubba McCoy]

I said not interested, but I think it will be good for Def and for its members that are.

BUT!

Remember that talk we had about a feds growing cycle. .... I do not think we should be a regional fed anymore. I personally think after the world tour and by Homecoming . I would say Defiance has moved into National Level. Give some more time I would even say it would move into World Wide Territory...


I say Def has been at a ECW / ROH type level for a bit. But now it has branched up and Gained a lot of fans with the world tour,. And I would say is a TNA level fed. [With better management ] The internet angle as far as shows go has been a great modern idea I Would not change that. But IF Def were to get a Deal it could be that The shows air. The a few days later the Shows posted on the internet for those who missed / are unable to watch. Which gets more buys for the PPV's


I'm rambling.... I'll stop now.

 

[QueenOfTheRing]

I voted to concentrate on DEFIANCE, at least for right now. Some new things are being tried as of the last show, like making sure to call segs in advance/having a plan for them and the staff working to clean up continuity as much as possible before shows go out the door, and having these become routine and a quality product resulting should be the focus. Anyone from an interfed who is going to have segs and matches on our shows will have to follow this policy. We should make sure we're all following it first.

To answer the "would I be interested/would I participate" portion of the voting choices: if DEFIANCE joins the interfed I will probably not participate because I want my focus here and since I don't know anything about the group running it I can't say for sure if it's good or bad for the fed as a whole.

 

[Bad Mofo]

I voted no.

Eventually we'll become the most active fed in that interfed, nothing against them - it's just what I predict will happen. Maybe the other feds poach one or two of our talents, which means one or two of our match writers. But I'm not interested in rping for "competition" anymore. I don't feel like we need an interfed for anything as well, honestly. We had a strong talent pool, our cards are on time for the most part, and have been for the past what? Seven? Eight months? And the one card we had late was late by like 3-4 days.

We're strong enough to hold our own without being involved in interfeds.

Also, anyone in WfWA/NeWA/CAL/NWC not see any WeWA staff meltdowns and someone from DEFIANCE stepping up to take a position of power?

Nothing against Tocci.

 

[Damien]

I'm interested in participating.

It's been a long time since I've done any RPing, so an occasional chance to do that competitively wouldn't go a miss for me. I certainly don't want to go joining another fed when I don't want to RP every single week.

Lindz is right, we need to get our processes sorted as well, but I really don't think that'll be a huge job. We're slowly getting there with everything now, and I'm sure we'll have things nailed sooner rather than later.

My only concern would be drama. I don't want to see a repeat of that whole GAY fiasco.

Actually, I kinda do...

 

[JeffOLW]

I voted no lets concentrate on Defiance.

I had a very brief look two of the WeWA feds. They were both picbase feds. My opinion changed from "opposed but whatever" (what it was when Justin and I discussed this on AIM) to "adamantly opposed from associating with any of them."

Giving these guys the time of day would be a huge downgrade to DEF. Joining them would be as ridiculous as the last time we joined an interfed. And remember what happened the last time we joined an interfed? Caution, may contain slurs and/or triggers.

 

[SenorJames]

There are 10 votes. I would appreciate it, if everyone who votes, would leave an explanation as to why they voted that way (yay or nay). It's good for the health of the discussion, because I've already seen some good points made on both sides of the coin. Justin wants this to be a real group decision and not just some numbers on a poll.

As it stands the count is 6-5 in favor of joining, however the count leans heavier 7-3 towards those who wouldn't participate one way or the other.

 

[Bad Mofo]

They were both picbase feds.

Not too mention they use color text(s) in their rps. I just need music files to be playing now.

 

[Justin]

We all started in shitty feds, every single one of us, and how did we get better?

We saw something better.

IJS.

 

[Greer]

I was going to post my opinion, but part of it was negative and I don't think it'll be of any real help.

It's not like any of this is predicated on legally binding contracts.

If it works, cool. If it doesn't work, it's as simple as removing a link from a website, no harm no foul.

More people > more eyes > more ideas > more fun.

 

[DBrunkGXW]

I voted No, we should focus on DEFIANCE.

For one thing, I like DEFIANCE and the group we have. I see no reason why we'd need these groups.

The other more possibly helpful point I'd like to make is that if we're joining a group to help them out, you can almost never raise someone to your level. Invariably, they'll drag you down instead.

I see no need for it.

That said, I'm not so adamantly opposed that I'd go off in a huff if we did it. I'd participate in whatever I was needed for in order to make DEFIANCE look as good as possible.

 

[SenorJames]

I was going to post my opinion, but part of it was negative and I don't think it'll be of any real help.

You do remember what forum you're on right?

Post that shit up, you pussy!

 

[Justin]

I will say the major difference between GEA and WeWA is that the WeWA was put together and is completely staffed by people who came up back in the day in the NeWA and/or NWC, that said they at least know what they fuck they're trying to do.

As opposed to the GEA, that was put together by a crazy bitch who thought she could do anything she wanted to just because she wanted to, and results had nothing to do with anything.

Carry on.

 

[Bad Mofo]

You do remember what forum you're on right?

Post that shit up, you pussy!

Ohh snap Stevie, he posted to you questioning the authenticity of your man-parts.

 

[JeffOLW]

I would also say this.

Remember that time Renee tore Jason (Jimmy Kort) a new one in one of the most one-sided RP battles in Defiance history? When she pretty much destroyed all of Kort's credibility in a few paragraphs? Remember the part where Jason thought the RP battle was one sided in his favor because he 'forced her into a change of character' and was butthurt when he lost?

My experience with picbase proboards feds is that the people who run them are a bunch of jasons.

 

[DBrunkGXW]

I would also say this.

Remember that time Renee tore Jason (Jimmy Kort) a new one in one of the most one-sided RP battles in Defiance history? When she pretty much destroyed all of Kort's credibility in a few paragraphs? Remember the part where Jason thought the RP battle was one sided in his favor because he 'forced her into a change of character' and was butthurt when he lost?

My experience with picbase proboards feds is that the people who run them are a bunch of jasons.

I agree with this wholeheartedly.

It's the "so stupid you think you're smart" syndrome.