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Email Address: damang411@gmail.com
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eWrestling Experience:17 years (Angle Fed Virgin though) Recently in Sin City Wrestling (Sabra run version), Code Red Wrestling and historically in a place called Hardkore World
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Writing Sample

Voice of a Little Girl: Mooooooooooooooooooooooooooom, why is that Frog making that weird noise?

[We are inside a generic shopping mall, people mill about in the weird downtime between school shopping and the inevitable march to the gallows that is Black Friday. Some early birds are getting the holidays done early, elderly people walking in a group for exercise and a smattering of young mothers with small children that come so their children can play on the large indoor playground without dealing with the rainstorm that is seen in the overhead lights.

The “Frog” in question is a mascot costume in the general shape of a Frog, but colored by a child of the 90’s. Blazing yellow skin, bright purple spots, and floppy orange hi-top shoes on its feet. A garish neon green T-Shirt emblazoned with an electric blue OhNo Cola across the chest. The wearer of the costume looks like they’ve seen better days as they are doubled over in pain helplessly clutching at their groin. A busty Japanese woman in a smart power suit with a skirt combo taps her leopard print high heels on the brown and black tiled floor, she’s saying something not heard to the mascot and motioning little kicks like she’ll do it again if he doesn’t comply.

The mother quickly grabs her daughter’s wrist and pulls her away.]

Mother: Don’t look at them.

[The camera gets closer to the mascot and woman.]

Woman: Our projections are down 43 percent, Bryan. Do you understand? All the good you’d done in the last couple of months is GONE.

“Frog”: How is crippling my chance of having children going to motivate me again, Midori?

Midori: It doesn’t, but I need to releave my stress somehow and I can’t back-fist the costume I might dent Frodo’s cute little smile.

[She makes a pretty creepy grin and some kissy faces at the mascot head’s tongue wagging smirk. The eyes on the costume are lazy as well, giving Frodo an unnerving Derpy Hooves look.]

“Frodo”: You sometimes scare the hell out of me Midori.

Midori: Shut up and pass out the OhNo Pumpkin Spice samples!

“Frodo”: Do I have to tell them that it contains 13 percent less whale semen?

Midori: That’s our biggest sales pitch, of course you do!

“Frodo”: I know I’m not in marketing, but that really seems like something we should keep hush-hush.

Midori: Shut up and shill, and make sure you do the “Baggins Bop” dance routine…

“Frodo”: I don’t see how I can windmill my arms while holding a tray of samples.

Midori: Just do what marketing tells us. I might have a lead in getting you back into the wrestling ring so we can get our name out there. Until then, “Baggins Bop” or I go Sebastian Janakovich on your testes again.

“Frodo”: It's Janikowski.

Midori: Shut up and dance.


[The scene fades as Frodo the Frog windmills both his arms tossing samples all over the walls and carpet of the play area while doing what can only be described as a Russian kick dance with both feet.]

Brought to you by NAKAMURA GLOBAL

Wrestler(s) Information

Please take note of a couple things. It is highly likely that a few roster members will critique your moveset. Please don't be offended. We take that shit seriously here - we don't want a moveset full of finishers and a finisher so ludicrously over-elaborate that it couldn't be done in real life. This goes double if you're applying as a female wrestler. We also check to make sure your finisher(s) and theme song aren't currently being used. It's first come first serve when it comes to those.

And if you're one of those handlers who hates doing movesets, just say so and Jeff will do it for you.

Ring Name: Bryan “The Maniac” Rodgers
Height: 6’3”
Weight: 237

Hailing From: Snowflake,Arizona

Alignment: Face

Theme: “Mob Goes Wild” by Clutch

Gimmick: Off-beat Indentured Servant to a Japanese Corporation who abuse him like a red-headed step-child

Wrestling Style: Technically Proficient Brawler, Bryan can do a bit of everything well because of his natural athletic ability and size. He’s most at home in a brawl and that’s his natural instinct most of the time if he gets into a pinch, his boxing background steps in.

Bio:
As a young man he was pushed into boxing by an uncle who recognized his natural athletic ability and decent balance and quickness. He was moderately successful with it, garnering a local Golden Glove award, and he played strong safety for his high school football team and was on the wrestling team. He dropped out of Virginia Commonwealth University after one semester to train full time in a local wrestling school.

Bryan is a modern day Ronin, like the masterless samurai of old, Bryan has wandered from federation to federation never gaining too many titles, or even keeping a contract for too long. He’ll also disappear from the sport for extended periods of time, and then show back up in some other high school gym. He has managed to pick up a few titles along the way.


For a period of time he hosted a knock off of Mister Roger’s Neighborhood while juggling a couple of different federations. During this child host era, he was given a Magic 8 Ball as a gift from a young fan, but the Magic 8 Ball had a weird scratch on it next to the 8 that looked like the letter H. This 8 Ball sort of took over Bryan’s life leading him astray like a very effective shoulder devil… he either through need or desperation created an “angel” in the form of Skullington T. Chair affectionally known as Skully his constant companion to fight off the temptations of the Magic 8 Ball, and what better way to do that than a steel chair with a demented smiley face painted on it?



A few years ago Bryan signed on with the infamous Nakamura Global Conglomerate, a Japanese firm that deals with professional athletes, runs a soda company, has a clothing line and dabbles in God knows what else, who had a scout on him for some time, he got a big signing bonus which helped out pay off some Puerto Rican prison officials when he may or may not have tried to make sexy time with the Governor of Puerto Rico’s only daughter… the Governors underaged only daughter (at the insistence of the Magic H8 Ball of course). To keep Bryan in check the NGC has sent a handler to be with him at all times, she is Midori Onita, a woman who was once named “The Barbara Walters of the Japanese Porn Industry” and a stiff spinning backfist that she won’t hesitate to use, and if that doesn’t work she can flaunt her giganormous breasts and hypnotize Bryan into behaving.


Flipping Strengths and Weaknesses for a turn of phrase

Three Strengths:
1. Tenacity; For whatever reason, Bryan is just a naturally tough son of a bitch. He won’t go down easily, and just when you think you’ve got him his shoulder is off the mat. He’s very reminiscent of Terry Funk in that way that sometimes you wonder if he’s just running on some sort of primal instinct and his body is kicking out even-though his brain isn’t telling him too.

2. Jack of All Trades…; Bryan can seemingly pull a move we've never seen him do regularly out of his ass at random. While not an expert, he's got a solid foundation on submission work, amateur wrestling, is a decent high flier, and has minimal martial arts exposure. He's got a deep bag of tricks, and dabbles in a bit of everything.

3. Skully and the H8 Ball; You wouldn't think having a children's toy and a painted steel chair at ring side would help a guy out. But it does, H8 Ball can motivate and Skullington T. Chair can literally swing the match is Bryan's favor if needs be.

Three Weaknesses:
1. Lacks Drive; Bryan has all the tools to be a big time player in wrestling, he’s just mentally weak at times. He reaches a point and that’s “good enough” which can cost him when the pressure is really on. Most of his former employers lament his inability to fulfill his potential.

2….Master of None; While Bryan can do almost everything to an adequate level, aside from brawling he’s not really, really great at anything… only he thinks he can hang with you. Or he'll attempt a new move that he's not as overly familiar with and put himself in a disadvantageous situation. So he’ll make futile attempts to out power a power wrestler, or go hold for hold with a vaunted technician, at least until he gets a different orders from Midori, but by then it’s sometimes too late.

3. The Nakamura Global Conglomerate; His benefactors are a fickle bunch at times, and sometimes if his antics might hurt the stocks Midori Onita will step in and try to get him under control (ie taking a weapon away because it might hurt the NGC by having a bloodied chair waving lunatic as their spokesman for a photoshoot the next day) or they’ll want him to shill a product at certain times which breaks whatever momentum he’s built up, or puts him in a disadvantageous situation.

Note for Writers: This number three you can run with and play with it. I literally see Bryan being used as some sort of human guinea pig by this company, make him wrestle in a frog suit, make him win by 5 count, make him stop after every time he hits a big move and shill some product.



MOVESET

Ten regular moveset moves:

1) Snap Suplex
2) Bodyslam into a Jumping legdrop
3) Pendulum Backbreaker (usually attempts the Frog-Sault after)
4) Float-over Swinging Neckbreaker (Rock Float-over DDT only neckbreaker, obviously)
5) Jumpback Clothesline (Springs off the middle rope spins and hits a flying clothesline)
6) Octopus Stretch
7) Rope Hung Bodysplash (opponent in 619 position, Bryan runs and sitting sentons their back)
8) Russian Legsweep to the guardrail/ring steps/apron
9) Suicide Bulldog (leaps off the apron catching opponent in a bulldog to the floor)
10) Snowflake Jam; Top rope Legdrop

2-5 trademark moves:

1) Idle Hands; Three quick left jabs, a right cross, a left to the gut, finished with a right handed short uppercut
2) Frog-Sault; Moonsault with a Frogsplash style “pump”
3) Whirling Dervish; Opponent in the corner, he hits a cartwheel driving back elbow instantly chained into a running bulldog
4) Shill Baby, Shill; Thesz Press punch flurry while screaming out product names for the NGC with every punch
5) The Nakamura Global Conglomerate Presents: Victory Through Submission By Superior Strategy and Planning; (mainly called the Nakamura Knot though) A Regal Stretch STF *Submission Finisher possibility

1 Finishing Move:
Pledge Drive; Cradled Northern Lights Bomb (hooks the opposite knee, lifts them up to a scoop position and drives them skull first to the mat)

1 "MDK" (murderdeathkill) Finishing Move(Optional)
Madness Combat Driver; Cross-Armed Kudoh Driver (Crosses the opponents arms in front of them, ducks down and lifts them to an inverted Gory Special and sits down)
 
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Damien

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1) While the gimmick intrigues me I really don't see how it works as a face. If he's got to stop wrestling, willingly or reluctantly, after a high spot to advertise a product he's just going to get booed. There's nothing to stop him turning face and fighting back against the Corporation, but that's something that would have to happen slowly over time, and to come in as a face just doesn't work for me.

2) He's hard to keep down and he knows and can do every wrestling move under the sun? ...Right, so he's Superman? Not a fan of this combination of strengths in the slightest.

2a) If he can do every wrestling move why does he need a sponsor to get him into DEFIANCE? Does that make sense when there's plenty of guys here who know less moves yet managed to get signed?

3) A frogspalshmoonsault for someone I'm imagining as the same size as Randy Orton? Pass.

4 (And most important)) The writing sample was... uninspiring. There's so much that can be done with this character. I can think of a whole bunch right off the top of my head. But to put it bluntly, this wasn't good. The length of it feels lazy. The fact that DEFIANCE, a debut, a move, or anything remotely related to wrestling wasn't mentioned in anything more than a passing blase way is a major negative for me.

Here's an idea, do what you did, but have it so that Bryan has just been fired or quit or some way released from a previous job with another fed. Have him in the frog suit because he has to work for the Nakamura Corporation in some way to make up for getting canned, and have Midori come along to tell him about how he's got a try out with a new fed.

Showcase his character through a scenario that relates to us, not just in a way that allows you to make a joke about whale cum.

Right now I'm a no, but with what I could imagine this character doing I could easily change my mind.
 

QueenOfTheRing

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Damien hit a lot of points here that I was trying to convey to Justin and Jeff last night but didn't do a very good job of it, probably because I was tired.

There's a lot of room for movement within the gimmick and I think it's got promise. I thought of quite a few scenarios where this could be hilarious but it's not there yet.

I also want a stronger nickname for the guy if you're going to have one at all. Nothing in the application says "maniac" to me.

Right now I'm a no, but with what I could imagine this character doing I could easily change my mind.

^^^Seconded.
 

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This gimmick is awesome and has a lot of potential, and "Pledge Drive" is one of the best names for a finisher I've ever heard. I also liked the writing sample although it's a deviation of standard for angle feds -- that said, so was mine when I applied.

If Damien hadn't poked holes in this that I would have never thought of then I'd be an immediate yes. But he makes some great points. I will go yes contingent upon some tweaks to the character. I also agree with Lindz in the fact that I don't feel the "Maniac" nickname but that could very well be something that you plan on justifying early in the game.
 

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Fair criticisms so far.

I thought the move diversity was well balanced with the concept that he attempts to go toe to toe with specialists in their area, but can see the concern. I've edited and reworded it a bit so as to limit the "Superman/Knows All Teh Movez" aspect of the original application isn't as much of an issue.

Maniac is merely an old hold out when he was part of a Raven's Flock gimmick back in the day, and I've kept it around as a nod to that era. I've edited the bio a bit, bringing back in an aspect of the gimmick I'd dropped with the H8 Ball and Skully which should help clarify "The Maniac" nickname a bit.

I think he works as a face, because he'll shill, but it's completely forced, and begrudging.

As for the Frog-sault. I see Bryan in an RVD body type, while granted he's a bit taller, I don't think it's unrealistic for him to have the agility needed to pump on a moonsault.

I have to head out to work, but I can get some links to stuff I've done with Bryan in the past year to better show what I am capable of.

If there are any other concerns, let me know!
 

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I read your updates and my vote is moving to a firm "no." The app's even more all over the place than it was the first time and the addition of the props seems like a forced justification for having the nickname. You have good intentions for the character to be a face but I can't see the fans, the commentators, or the staff accepting him as one. That's important here - more important than in most other places I've been, to be fair.

We have a couple female Asian managers already. While that alone wouldn't make me say "no, you can't bring one in," only one of the two is written well with clearly-defined characteristics/attitude/alignment (Saori Kazama). I don't have a lot of confidence in Midori as a character because of what I've seen in the edits.

From a "current landscape of DEF" perspective, which I should have thought of last night/this morning: I can't see Ed White taking a chance on either of these characters because why would he want anyone shilling anything that doesn't have anything to do with his own interests?

And, lastly, I'm still with Damien on the moveset.

I think this still needs some work but I hope you'll think on it a bit more and reapply another time. Or, maybe work out the character focus a bit in another fed. Justin suggested RLW last night in the same vein as when Go-Go Spectacular applied here and the consensus for that character was some more development work was needed too. Just a thought for you to consider.
 

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I read your updates and my vote is moving to a firm "no." The app's even more all over the place than it was the first time and the addition of the props seems like a forced justification for having the nickname. You have good intentions for the character to be a face but I can't see the fans, the commentators, or the staff accepting him as one. That's important here - more important than in most other places I've been, to be fair.

We have a couple female Asian managers already. While that alone wouldn't make me say "no, you can't bring one in," only one of the two is written well with clearly-defined characteristics/attitude/alignment (Saori Kazama). I don't have a lot of confidence in Midori as a character because of what I've seen in the edits.

From a "current landscape of DEF" perspective, which I should have thought of last night/this morning: I can't see Ed White taking a chance on either of these characters because why would he want anyone shilling anything that doesn't have anything to do with his own interests?

And, lastly, I'm still with Damien on the moveset.

I think this still needs some work but I hope you'll think on it a bit more and reapply another time. Or, maybe work out the character focus a bit in another fed. Justin suggested RLW last night in the same vein as when Go-Go Spectacular applied here and the consensus for that character was some more development work was needed too. Just a thought for you to consider.

If there's one place that can turn "psychologically neutered warrior" into a folk hero, it's RLW. If you decide to go that route.
 

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As far as movesets and actual wrestling goes / the strengths and weaknesses... ALWAYS give a character some kryptonite. Use that weaknesses section to outline what truly makes your character interesting. If this guy is an indentured servant to some big multinational investment firm make him need them, make him desperate, make him annoyed that this stupid company keeps hoisting products and commercial spots on him. Make him SYMPATHETIC. A babyface with this sort of gimmick needs to draw sympathy... he can't be "perfect" or even "well rounded" defeats the purpose of the gimmick you've given him. It has to be perceieved that this guy NEEDS the support of these Asian assholes to stay in DEF.

Just FYI, this guys path to not needing the corporation anymore? That could be the basis for one hell of an arc. You find yourself a good writing partner this gimmick/angle is strong enough to carry you for a good long while. IMHO. Just need to hammer out a few kinks.

TL;DNR

Great gimmick. Just rethink the weaknesses/strengths section, rethink the move-set and reapply.
 

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I don't generally god-vote, but in this particular case I'm going to. No, and locked.

Drew, honestly, if DEFIANCE wasn't more or less completely full, I'd vote yes. Most efeds don't take movesets and wrestling psychology anywhere near as seriously as we do - we've had handlers from other feds apply with 40 move long movesets full of finishers. One guy very insistently argued that because his character was a veteran, that was a good reason for him to have a Vertebreaker in his moveset.

Anyway the only big problem with the moveset I see is the pump moonsault - to be blunt that's kind of stupid, if you tried to pump during a moonsault you'd mess up your momentum and land on your chin and break your neck. My suggestion? Replace it with a corkscrew moonsault (moonsault where the wrestler spins in the air so he lands back first on the opponent), no one in efeds uses that and it's still a modified moonsault. Some of the other stuff may be a little on the elaborate side, but you could always work either a complexity addiction for the character or demands from his corporate godmasters to make his moves representing their products extra fancy.

But like I said, we're very very full at the time - shows are running longer than Justin likes and people are getting whiplash trying to finish them - and while you're good you're not "holy shit fuck everything we got to make room for this guy and riat naow" good.

If you want to join this particular efed badly enough that you're willing to do a trios team, I'd easily vote yes. Otherwise go hang out in RLW and we'll give you a holler when there's a spoton the roster. If short RPs aren't your think, depending on how active you like to be you might look up United Toughness Alliance or New Alberta Pro Wrestling.
 
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