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    ACTS of DEFIANCE Discussion Thread: The Mormonstrosity

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    CELEBRATE GOOD TIMES! C’MON!
    Nice change up this week without the rundown and of course Mikey and his cohorts are gonna come out here and gloat. The “I TOLD YOU SO” really sums up the perfect tone for this whole piece. The braggadocious heel and his heelies rubbing it in after DEF took a big L. Fantastic start to the show.

    OSCAR BURNS VS. REINHARDT HOFFMAN

    The Technical Spectacle going one on one with the Gentlemen German. This spun nicley out of the PPV/Uncut and is a perfect first match for this show. Seth really sold the whole thing in the opening commentary as well as hitting that super important “infighting” note. This was a solid match if not maybe a touch long for TV, but a great read. Hoffman takes the loss and even taps - but wethered by War Games and then so evenly matched against Burns. That plays. The handshake at the end of the match was well written as well and lends to DEF finally getting their shit together - maybe. Great job.

    FOLLOW THE LIGHTS
    Wrote it. Douglas has no match tonight coming off of the WG loss but he has some words for Michael.

    GETTING TO KNOW YOU
    A lot of Interview stage action tonight. It’s funny how something barely gets used and then everyone is thinking along the same lines at the same time. “Fake dirtsheets.” Entertaining read that was equal parts great follow up from the PPV as well as setting up the next match. This Charlie Ace thing has been at time a little hard to follow, I think mostly because I’ve never been too invested in who he is managing (burn me once...) but it’s still been a fun ride and overall this is clearly shaping up to be something great.

    CC vs. BUTCHER

    I wasn’t expecting such a quick win, caught me by complete surprise. And now we have a kerfuffle. “Can someone get out here?” “Someone is out here” good stuff. Question is who the hell are these two unidentified fellows. Intrigued.

    TALENT SCOUT
    More Russian that I never bother to translate. Only because if the writer/tv producer wants us to know what they are saying it’ll come up at some point. Otherwise I take it as a language I don’t know or understand and therefore as a standard American television watcher - it’s scary. #RasslinLogic. I’m loosely involved in all this but I didn’t write a word. Justin and Stevie killed this, super entertaining set up to later events in the night. DEF already seems to be completley fucked … if the Reapers and their budding Army of Brazen talent jump ship - there may be no winning.

    WHO IS LEFT
    Solid segment, Crimson’s dialogue read a little weird in some places. The more heat thing plays well though and Crimson if sure after it. Burns pops up, that was a surprise. Burn’s is always good for a chuckle. Felt like this started to go a bit long, but Crimson jumps back into the back and forth and we end up in quick exchange that bodies Burns.

    STEVENS vs. LOCAL TALENT
    This one confused me from the first time it popped up in the ARC Booking. So I’m interested to see what happens here. “Stevens is easily the most despised member of UTA” I can dig that is what the writer wants to get the character over with and I get that it fits into the #FUCKDEF deal but at this point … fresh off of WG I’d say if it isn’t Ryan, Harmen, or Mikey there are still a name or two before Stevens. The promo was hit or miss with me. I felt like some lines were great and others just really felt clunky and missed their mark. Overall I wasn’t a big fan of this. Is Satánico Pandemonium made up just for this occasion? Honestly he could be a UTA NPC that I’m not familiar with but the way he is written and described doesn’t feel like it. Squashes certainly have their place to build a character but I don’t really feel like the way this reads it did anything to help Stevens.

    NO SIDES
    Helped with this one.

    WOLVES
    Good segment. Andy is back and Cayle responds to Mikey’s bounty. NJNP in the place to be. Looks like we got a title match and some mutually agreed stipulations that I’m sure won’t come into play at all. Good read.

    THE MOST DANGEROUS MAN IN DEFIANCE
    Abrupt start but it works and hey Ross has music … twice in a row! I felt like the Ross promo started really strong as it goes on it starts to get watered down, goes from badass to “watch it on youtube” - lost me a little there, referencing the past is fine but for a inring may be beat that drum a little less hard. It feels a little too on the nose at times much like saying “I’m UTA’s loose cannon” - most loose cannons don’t know they are a loose cannon. I do like the continuity that everyone in UTA is jockeying for basically the same position and stumbling into other qurallels. The attack was set up nicely . Blackwoods reaction to DEFsec was nice too. My nitpicking aside I liked this one and can’t wait to read the rest of this feud.

    RING THE BELL/HARVEY THREEWAY
    Granted this start with a segment, but the opponents are in the ring already so I was surprised not to have a Quimbey introduction. Promo seemed to drone on a little long but overall the segment was fine. Not sure if it was entirely needed but it does continue the theme of UTA members monopolizing TV time to gloat and rub in the MAXDEF results. The match was fine enough and served it’s purpose stated into the segment. Good stuff.

    GEARS OF GWAR: LAST DAY
    Creative vignette. Very interesting read. I think some of the video game references are lost on me but this has been solid stuff from the jump. Can’t wait to see this act in full swing.

    HIDE AND SEEK
    Good follow up to before. This is strange to say the least. A little bit a mutual respect? Or at least common curitousy between Lisil and Blackwood. Interested to see where this is going.

    A CALL FOR JUSTICE
    PCP coming out now and we get some nice selling and the fall out from the DEF perspective. “Bee-tee-dubs” Reginald Klein Boxman III, Esq., now that’s just funny. I actually laughed out loud at “Maybe you unite toughness by putting the same word on both end...wait, where’d Jack go! Klein! Subpoena him!” Good segment overall. The knee thing was interesting. Fun read.

    ANDY vs. DIGGS

    Solid TV match. Diggs of course does is cheating, cowardly shitheel stuff and Andy gets upset in the end. This seems be setting something up, can’t wait to see what.

    DEFIANTLY UNITED
    And there it is. Nice little button to the match before. I dig the subtlety of this one. I think this puts Stevens in a much better spot than the jobber match from earlier in the night. I forget if it was here of Harmen’s appearance above but there were some find and replace typos in there with Harmens name.

    Just When You Thought…
    This is the interview stage show. “glove that makes hamburgers not taste like shite!” ???? DEF gets a little gloating of their own in but NJNP isn’t gonna let that go on for long. They’ve made it personal now with the attack of Capital Punishment and it looks like we a MAXDEF rematch.

    CRIMSON LORD © VS. RICH MAHOGANY
    Squash. There were some spacing issues in this as well, prior to proof. Please check the doc on that. I thought it was weird when I joined up but now seeing Defiance not in all caps is odd. Quimbey's announcements where very bare, especially for Rich. I know we harp on keeping TV matches short - but over all this just felt phoned in. A squash can certainly serve a purpose but when it's this brief, it feels undercut and that point I don't know if it actually serves that purpose any longer.

    CAYLE VS. BIGSBY
    New entrance for Cayle and this match is off to the races. Great match and incredibly written as usual. Super solid main event. With DEF firmly on the ropes it makes you wonder how long Cayle, already injured, can keep this up.

    OVERALL
    Strong ARC opener. And guys please, capitalize your titles, format correctly and space correctly. We are all going to make mistakes here and there, sure - but some of you are consistently making the same ones over and over again.

    This means more work in the proofing process and will translate to late cards… and for awhile now we’ve been on a pretty good roll of on time cards. Also follow the RUNSHEET when reserving segments. If there is an issue with your placement let us know in the RUNSHEET thread so we can try to accommodate your needs without throwing something else off completely.

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    Re: ACTS of DEFIANCE Discussion Thread: The Mormonstrosity

    CELEBRATE GOOD TIMES! C’MON!
    Wrote this! Hope you enjoyed!

    OSCAR BURNS VS. REINHARDT HOFFMAN

    Liked this match and the philosophy used. The multiple pin attempts consecutively is nice, and something rarely done in EW. Angus was on his form In this one, “twists off their arm and beats them with it” lol. If this were an Indy show, this is the part where the crowd shouts out “WRESTLING~!” randomly. This was a different style, Loved it. usually you only get this much grappling in a Impulse match. Nice handshake finish. This was lovely.

    FOLLOW THE LIGHTS
    Nice segment from Scott Douglas, follows up a little from Mikey earlier In the night, but addresses the real issues. 1) The Invasion 2) The SOHER 3) Reaper Co. This was a checkmark across the board. Good face promo into the Reaper stuff. Scott Douglas won’t “assume the position” for anyone. I like it. Angus was very anti Dooglas tho.

    GETTING TO KNOW YOU
    Nice segment leading into the following match. This was a good “hey what now?” seg to further the Charlie Ace angle. I’m a big fan of this stuff that Damien is doing! It’s great! Loved the line that Caballero is finally getting everything he thought he would by waiting patiently.

    CC vs. BUTCHER

    Hell of a quick match but very well put together. This was a fun read, kept me interested throughout. Nicki Synz won’t die! Two new men in on the equation now! The stable is building quick! The slow play is paying off in a big way here on this arc.

    TALENT SCOUT
    This was awesome. Loved the play on JFK going to Paz to pitch a job for the reapers and getting no answer… JFK lays down the law and tells her how awesome it would be for Reapers to be in team UTA. Then he threatens at the end, if Reaper co makes the wrong choice…. Well there are consequences. AWESOME

    WHO IS LEFT
    YES! This is great! Hahahahaha Loved the promo from CL alone in the beginning, just rubbing it in the faces of the fans. Then burns comes out and this turns into half comedy/half seriousness and it was great! I feel like Seth is finding the voice of Burns a bit better now than previously. The personality came through here. Good work. Loved the quick brawl. The heel started it, but he finished it too! This feud feels gold already J

    STEVENS vs. LOCAL TALENT
    If you would like feedback, provide feedback J

    NO SIDES
    Read this while it was coming together. Good job here from Stevie and Justin. I allowed them to use mikey freely and in no way did they do anything I wouldn’t have. UTA IS THE PLACE TO BE YEA!? Nice way to give a definitive statement from Reaper co. they are on their own. Mikey’s party has slowed down a bit. Good work guys

    WOLVES
    B.E.A.UTIFUL! Good seg from Murray and great response to the Bounty. Loved the waqy he worked NJNP in and gave them a spot to give their say before the match. This went from “The FIST isn’t ready” to “He better be real quick!” Nice!

    The Most Dangerous Man in Defiance
    “Mikey doesn’t pay Chris to play by the rules, he pays him to get the job done!” Nice line especially keeping with continuity with the invasion. Thought this was a pretty good promo actually. Like the direction Chris is taking this. He’s a Hired gun, but completely unpredicable (Except to the person with the moolah). I like it. Ditch “Loose Cannon” and go with something like “Wildcard” seems more original. Gage Blackwood comes out and interferes after Chris is Jaw jacking with the crowd. Nice way to give Gage some momentum going forward. I know some may complain about the face attacking the heel, but I like this kinda stuff in the “war” setting. Good appearances from both guys. This benefited everyone in it.

    Ring The Bell -
    i loved this bit from harvey, plays off the War Games match, still wearing bandages from the opening seg (CONTINUITY!) and mentions how he’s STILL going to beat anyone that gets in his way. Good promo. Also I love the word Bozos and it should be reserved for Harvey!


    Triple Threat-
    Great TV style match here. I enjoyed Harvey playing more of the “outthink, not outwork” attitude. One of my favorite heels on the roster, but goddamn is this roster stacked! Good match Harvey keeps moving up! Good job bud.

    Hide and Seek
    Enjoyed this bit too, world building, hints at future stuff, and continuing the current angle. Ross probably left, it’s the right move for a shit heel LOL.

    A CALL FOR JUSTICE
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    ANDY vs. DIGGS

    Great match, and great storytelling. Andy Murray seems to have lost a step and the ever shady Danny Diggs picks up a HUGE upset. Nice stuff. Liked the rib work, and the exposed turnbuckle, the roll up, the tights the whole deal. Looking to see what fallout comes from this.

    DEFIANTLY UNITED
    To short not to beef. Good stuff, little hints and world building. I like that two UTA guys got together for this!

    Just When You Thought…
    Love that the feud keeps building and growing. Nice turns in Brazen to help the angle just a little more. good stuff SETH. LOVE what you are doing with NJNP.

    CRIMSON LORD © VS. RICH MAHOGANY
    Crimson lord picks up a big win. Rich wasn’t himself, ill chalk that up to Scott not knowing the character. This was fine for what it was. Another Crimson win and he keeps on Rolling as UTA Champion. Nothing wrong with the match, just would have liked to see more personality shine through.

    CAYLE VS. BIGSBY
    Great match! Had to do it all in one read, I don’t know what it is about Murrr’s writing but he turns the Suspense to 12 everytime! It’s great! Nice first Bounty match here tonight. Shame Felton couldn’t get it done, he would have made a great FIST J Murrr is doing a ton of work on this arc, so kudos out to you boyo.
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    Re: ACTS of DEFIANCE Discussion Thread: The Mormonstrosity

    celebrate good times, c'mon - mikey and the rest of his roster gloat and with good reason, a win is a win. after that mikey puts a bounty on the FIST of DEFIANCE title. we will see who tries to cash in on that. no complaints, it was long but that is to be expected.

    burns vs hoffman
    - this match had some stank on it. nice paced match that had both men in the driver's seat. match ends with a submission. solid contest and a good win for burns after the ppv loss to stoovins.

    follow the lights
    - started off solid and then went in a crazy direction. things continue to get weird between douglas and the reaper's. definitely something out of the attitude era imo. wondering where this goes.

    getting to know you - good segment. liked how victorious picked holes in caballero's victories and time with ace. very good set up for their upcoming match.

    victorious vs caballero - that was a quick one. after the match all hell breaks loose. ace's stable seems to be growing. i dug this a lot. good work.

    talent scout - kendrix trying to make a deal to get the reaper co to align itself with wrestleuta? we will see what their answer is later on. wrestleuta seems to be going to any length to finish this hostile takeover.

    who is left? - crimson lord pours more salt in the wounds after war games but is stopped when oscar burns comes down, making his claim for the wrestleuta world title and for the pride of DEFIANCE. burns got his pot shots in, the two brawled and crimson does what crimson always does, dominate. good work boys.

    stoovins vs local talent - stoovins continues the trend of shitting on defiance. i actually like his security team gimmick. the match was quick and gave stoovins more heat.

    no sides - reaper co. is fucking errybody up. i guess that's a solid "no" to jfk and mikey's offer.

    wolves - nice face promo from cayle murray. murray has his first challenger to try and claim the bounty on his head, should be interesting.

    the most dangerous man in defiance - ross has gotten better and better as time goes on. solid heel work and loved when blackwood came out to get some revenge. the brawl gets cut short by security but these two has unfinished business.

    my stuff - i wrote dings.

    gow:last day - what?

    hide and seek? - im torn on this. i get there being a segment like this but idk if it was necessary.

    a call for justice - going to some lengths to get a rematch. harmen doesn't want to hear any of it when he comes out. this isn't done, not one bit. i liked the segment, continued their story and i loved the harmen digs at... everyone really.

    big brother murr vs diggs- shocker. murr runs into the exposed turnbuckle and suffers a tough loss. a win is a win and diggs beat a legend.

    defiantly united - planting seeds. loved it becuz stoovins didn't say anything, woooo!

    crimson lord vs mahogany - squash. loved how crimson put his forearm in mahogany's face as he made the pin.

    just when you thought - a challenge has been made. the defiance tag team division continues to heat up.

    murray vs bigsby - classic face comeback at the end. murray gets it taken to him but finds the fortitude at the end to go above for the victory. solid win and good match.
    love ya pete

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    Celebrate Good Times: Great way to kick off the show.... Will be fun this Arc to see who all goes for the belt and how things will play out from here!

    Burns VS Hoffman: Nice match to get Burns back on track. Much needed win here!

    Follow The Lights: The Reapers being as unpredictable as ever. Will definitely keep an eye to see where this leads.

    Getting To Know You: Simple set up for the match. This seg did it's job.

    Victorious VS Caballero: Looks like we might have a new stable to keep an eye on. We'll see where this leads.

    Talent Scout: UTA are simply shameless... Surely the Reaper crew won't join UTA...... OR will they?

    Who is left?: Simple and to the point. Nothing fancy just 1 guy wants a shot at the belt and the other just wants to eat the guy for breakfast. Nothing out of the ordinary needed here to kick off this feud!

    Stevens VS Local Talent: Well this was inevitable. Though I didn't expect Gangrel to make a cameo tonight!

    No Sides: Well guess we aren't sharing Oreo Frappes with the Reaper crew afterall.... Bummer....

    Wolves: Looks like we got the first man to step up to the plate! Let's see if Bigsby is able to swing for the fences or if he'll strike out.

    Ring The Bell: I know it's not the writer's fault but seems odd to have back to back in ring promos. Even though it was typical Jay Harvey Heel antics we all know and love.

    Jay Harvey Three way: Yeah this was inevitable. Yeah Harvey is a prick and we all love it.

    Gears OF War: Last Day: *Insert head tilt here* Uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh....... Consider me thoroughly confused.....

    A Call For Justice: Jack Harmen man I loved him in UTA And I still love him. He's such a goofy over the top character. Anything with Harmen in it is usually pure entertainment regardless of what it is.

    Murr VS Diggs: WOW. I did not see this coming. Perhaps this is the classic "Has the old vet lost it?" Angle. as cliched as it kind of is I still am intrigued to see where this angle will go.

    Defiantly United: Looks like the piranhas are licking at their chops to get to Cayle Murray now.

    Crimson Lord VS Mahogany: Yeaaaaaaaaah this was inevitable. Crimson Lord is just a monster and plays the role so well.

    Just When You Thought: Nice to see the tag division heat up. Looking forward to see where this goes.

    Murr VS Bigsby: Great match! Good comeback at the end but the reality is going into next show he's going to be defending the belt and not at 100% either. Blood is in the water and the sharks are swarming.......

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    Celebrate Good Times

    It's the victory parade - it had to happen. The only thing I don't like about this - literally the only thing - is "It's almost comedic how much he stands out" referring to CL. I feel like the original DX worked so well as goofy assholes because Chyna was always serious without having to call attention. Nothing about CL in this scene should be comedic, even in an ironic way. But that's just me. Good move with JFK kicking Lance Warner out, tho.

    Burns vs Hoffman

    Good point by Angus - stop fighting each other and fight the mormons. 'German from the German' should be a thing Angus says from now on. But it was a solid win for Burns, which makes sense with everything going on - Hoffman did not make a difference in war games, so he needs to fade back for a bit.

    Follow the Lights

    We don't see interview stages often enough. Awesome promo from Scott Douglas - with Cayle beaten down and Impulse on the shelf, we need another strong pro-DEF babyface to pick up the slack and he's doing it in spades. The interruption from Paz and the Kabal was a needed reminder that there is still another enemy out there that we can't see. LOVING THIS ANGLE.

    Getting to Know You

    Literally my only beef with this seg is the back to back use of Lance Warner on the interview stage. Jesus fucking hell, who proofreads this shi wait this is a great segment.

    In all seriousness, this segment was a setup for future things, which is what you need coming off a PPV. In this case, it was a direct setup for

    Caballeros vs. Butcher

    Quick, storyline "match" - like I said before, this is the show to set up the next things.

    Talent Scout

    Another Paz sighting. Interesting flip flop from ACTS - this time the Reapers are being scouted. It makes sense that Kendrix would assume the Reapers are on UTA's side, but it also makes sense that Paz rejects him (but not fully, not yet) because they're on their own.

    Who is left?

    This is the Crimson Lord we need.

    Scott Stevens vs Local Talent

    I kind of feel like Quimbey shouldn't be that excited about a WrestleUTA guy. Maybe the Mormons should have their own ring announcer?

    No Sides

    Logical followup to both the Kendrix/Reaper seg from earlier - and the Douglas stuff. This arc I think is the arrival of Scott Douglas: he'll be a top tier babyface at the end of it, whether he wins his feud or not. The tension was perfect in my opinion, though - so while I love the way the Reapers attacked both DEF and WrestleUTA pillars with equal ferocity, I'm not sure I liked them doing it in THIS particular segment.

    Wolves

    The Murrray boys are best bois.

    The Most Dangerous Man in Defiance

    I would love to see this arc conclude with literally everyone Chris Ross insulted to line up and kick him in the dick. Words have consequences, sir. But it's a good reminder that Everybody Hates Chris. And now, Everybody Loves Gage.

    Ring the Bell/THE Jay Harvey vs two guys

    I mean, it's a squash and the squash setup. Not much to say about it but it establishes more about Harvey and his character beyond "WrestleUTA guy." Well done.

    You Will Play

    There's a band from NYC called PUi that has an EP called "You will clap" - my brain immediately went there. But I'm excited for the Fuse Bros.

    Hide and Seek?

    Good start to the Lisil Jackson redemption. He's the one guy on the WrestleUTA side that is clearly not trying to take things over (as opposed to Harmen who... we don't know what he's capable of). I like the establishing moment for him.

    A Call for Justice

    This might be my favorite story of all from the past year: the slow-burn face turn of the PCP. It takes a bit of a turn with Jack Harmen, who is ostensibly a heel - but who is enough of a legend for the fans to pop no matter what.

    Big Murrr vs Danny Diggs

    Surprising loss for The King, but this makes it look like he's entering his winter. Respect for the realistic type angle, even if it involved a pull of the tights.

    Defiantly United

    Well written, but felt like filler.

    CL vs. Rich Mahogany

    Feel bad saying it, but this match is the reason why we've been harping on Angus Skaaland's Very Important Opinions. I have no problem with Rich Mahogany being used as enhancement talent, or with CL being an overpowering monster who destroys his opponents. Rich Mahogany is one of the more... interesting... characters in DEF, and he is an Angus Skaaland favorite, which should have been reflected in the commentary.

    Just When You Thought

    ...that TEAM HOSS would be an Angus favorite again. Glad to see a tag team feud that does not revolve around the titles.

    Cayle vs. Felton

    Squidboy keeps hope alive. The bounty has the potential to be a great arc-wide angle, I hope it keeps on rolling.
    "Every generation needs a revolution." - Magnetic Poetry (original)

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    is this real life?
    - classic bruvs segment. it finally gets serious and mikey lets christie know what the deal is. mikey continuing to flaunt the titles that have been "borrowed".

    team hoss vs
    nj,np - not a bad match. nj,np looked like they were going to be on the wrong side of the decision and found a way to steal the victory.

    gears of war: the end - leads into the debut of the fuse brothers and the utter beat down of nj,np. the video package seemed pretty cool. only con is "game over" is harvey's mfk name. other than that i dug it.

    who says no? - kendrix is hot and it's to be expected. nice piece from stevie. telling the world once again, if u aren't with us u r against us.

    burns vs hightower - wow. burns with a major upset. hightower had it won but got caught and kicked out too late. good match, hightower dominated but burns never gave up.

    a totes official summons
    - this reminded me of old cartoons. harmen's reaction to PCP was hysterical. a nice comedic segment to break things up, really good.

    long night - looks like murr will have to compete even if he was dead per dane's orders. sucks being the man sometimes.

    bruvs title defense - the bruvs won but scott douglas took mikey's soher title. he's gonna pay for this!

    my stuff - i assumed there was going to be a segment before mine so idk if that's my bad or the proofers. i would have changed it to commercial.

    aces wild - charlie ace reveals the hooded men who made their presence felt two weeks ago. a little long but it sets up his stable and his claims that they are going to control defiance.

    stoovins vs murr - stoovins adds insult to injury after hitting his finisher. only issue i have is the use of the word "selling".

    round three - great face promo from blackwood. hit all his points; ross, his match/opponent, and his run in earlier in the night.

    adler vs blackwood - solid match until chris ross gets involved. of course some fuckatry goes down. blackwood out smarted chris for a minute but ross essentially gives adler a win by the executing a low blow. im not sure why chris didn't attack blackwood... maybe to show gage what is in his future? only issue i have with this is the chris ross attack at the end, seemed like it was too minimal on detail which isn't bad but seemed extremely minimal.

    xmas spirit - starting off with that funny part about candy crush. i have a hard time with this version of crimson lord. i preferred crimson when he chose he words precisely and kept things to a minimum. maybe i have to get used to him insulting the fans more and doing things im not used to crimson doing. all in all it wasn't a bad segment and made me laugh but didn't seem like something i'd be reading from crimson.

    open challenge - huh... not a bad match. the d spitting in crimson's face - wait, crimson later kills him and wins the match. crimson continues to brutalize until ares comes out for the save... herself challenging crimson lord. some continuity issues aside not bad. ares showing she is a fighter to end this whole shabang.

    the color of war - reapers want the tag titles and challenge the hollywood bruvs. scott douglas is the topic of the night, a good lead in to the upcoming match.

    douglas vs reaper green - classic face vs heel match. douglas got his hope spots but for the most part of this match got his ass handed to him. douglas stands victorious at the end after a sub pop plex.

    questions - fitting title. eerie shit between douglas and reaper green.

    lil murr vs the boss - murray retains just by the skin of his teeth. ross had murray but somehow the champ's ring awareness kicks in and pops his foot on the rope. good match, solid back and forth.

    the afters - ross loses it and attacks murray but this brings the defiance roster together as the faces run down causing ross to slither away.

    there were a few times during the show where the defiance roster aligned itself as one. that was good to see. good show imo. one more show before the go home and things are still coming together. some matches are already taking shape but many more are still getting there.
    love ya pete

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    DEFtv94

    Following Mikey's feedback to get feedback ... ya'll made this an easy one.

    COME ON!
    I don't know if things got moved around here, if so that should have been caught but again I don't know if this differs from the RUNSHEET or not. In the future it'd probably be best to not write descriptions with such an in character slant. Other than that solid segment, Harvey is in classic heel fashion here, very Rick Rude-ish. Elise's entrance and quick pitch is solid. The back and forth is nice but this seems to drone on a little bit longer then needed (in reading it, its hard to say watching if it would feel as wordy as it does with well you know ... the words in front of you.) Solid segment and it sets up the match. I don't know that SO many matches need in rings just before them ... there are others ways to set it up. News, Propaganda, UNCUT. That being said solid segment. Also I thought the commentary was written well here.

    THE JAY HARVEY VS. ELISE ARES
    Elise comes off as a fighter but still takes the L. Blackwood rushes the ring. Solid TV match, I don't know that it does THAT much for Elise but it seems to have set up Harvey/Blackwood.

    EDIT: There was note of the opening bell that I missed. Not in standard format but it was there and it adheres to the latest match TV writing guide, my mistake.

    OVERALL SHOW
    Decent show, but the in rings ... far to many. There are other ways to set up your match ... hell if it's not a personal dispute the match can just be "scheduled" ... if it's just setting up something else anyway (hopefully for both participants unless you are using BRAZEN) there doesn't honestly need to be a whole big jaw jacking to make the match happen. That being said - that works sometimes but lately it's been EVERY CARD and more then one match. TV is one thing I CERTAINLY hope we are going to be seeing ANY of this on PPV. The whole point of TV is to build TOWARD the PPV ... so if you aren't doing that, please reevaluate what you are doing on the GO HOME and certainly keep that in mind for your next arc.


    Unlike Mikey's feedback set up - I will not be coming back and adding any for people who are playing catch up. Although I applaud anyone who does, it's been two weeks or so. You had time.

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    even tho in murr's demo match it just starts with a "bell sounds" line...

    WOOOO
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    Re: ACTS of DEFIANCE Discussion Thread: The Mormonstrosity

    I hadn't noticed that. Then that's fine for TV.

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    DEFtv95 Review & Feedback

    FYI, I wrote this feedback as I read the show and I am just getting familiar with everyone’s character.

    RUNDOWN
    THREE title matches!? Three!? That got me pretty hyped.

    I’LL GO RIGHT AWAY
    Spoiler alert but this wasn’t even the worst thing to happen to a Murray in the show. My heart goes out to Cayle who gets attacked by Scott Stevens backstage. Stevens comes off looking like a pretty ruthless badass in this segment.

    JACK HARMEN VS. ANDY MURRAY
    The action throughout the match was great and that wasn’t even the best part of it. Things really picked up after the match and I like how Harmen essentially went crazy. Was the damage Big Murr endured slightly over the top? Maybe, but maybe that was intended. After the neck stomp in the chair I thought for sure that’d be a career ender but I think that’s what the audience was encouraged to think, so in that respect, it did the job and got the moment over in my opinion. It makes Harmen look extremely dangerous and I am left wondering what will happen to Andy Murray post attack.

    SCREWED
    Good verbal jousting by No Justice, No Peace, slamming their multiple opponents. Their goal of ending the careers of The Fuse Bros. before it truly begins is intriguing.

    THE CABLE
    I like these guys... and I want a Hollywood bruvs t-shirt (obvs!). Their misunderstanding on how to pronounce Kebal was funny. Their antics are great and the writing here is sublime too. I can’t wait to see more of these guys and I hope they retain their gold.

    THE PILLARS OF ETERNITY VS. THUGS 4 HIRE
    I love the length of the match. Clear, succinct, and easy to follow, all a direction I want to take my writing in. The end via submission was nice, especially in a tag match, and the run in after sets things up nicely should Aces Wild and Synz and Victorious meet again.

    YOU CAN RUN YOU CAN HIDE BUT YOU CAN’T ESCAPE MY LOVE
    The Enrique inspired title just melted my heart. Blackwood speaks with purpose here, even calling Chris Ross the b word, which made me gasp. Plus, calling a man a coward is code for let’s duke it out. Ross comes out, which surprised me and the verbal judo that ensued was great. I especially liked the part where Ross called Blackwood on never hitting his finisher. The threats Ross made were great because I got the feeling it put Blackwood on edge.

    HEAD OF THE SNAKE
    I thought this was a great seg. It made me truly fell like DEFIANCE is losing this apparent war with WrestleUTA and that Scott Douglas was in possession of the most meaningful belt... at least to him. A few great quotes like “Paint by number” and “My act of defiance” made this segment resonate with me. I’m interested to read Unlikely’s response to the challenge.

    THE FUSE BROS. VS. NJNP
    A quick and convincing win by The Fuse Bros. deletes NJNP’s plans of ending them in one match. The brisk pacing was good. I am sensing a theme with yet another event taking place directly post-match as Team Hoss came out to save The Fuse Bros. who received cheap shots from NJNP.

    GET THEM OUTTA HERE!
    I learned three things from this segment. 1) I like Jay Harvey and he is a pompous ass. 2) Gage Blackwood certainly has a lot of enemies. 3) Tensions build as PCP impedes Harvey’s lambasting of Blackwood, which I found great because now Harvey and Catalina have another mixed gender duo to deal with.

    BREAK IN CASE OF EMERGENCY
    The comedy was real in this segment and I liked it. It also showed a fortified front between DEFIANCE wrestlers. Showing Cayle still in a lot of pain really brought a sense of reality to this segment too. I have an insta-crush on Elise Ares... totes lol.

    THE JAY HARVEY VS. GAGE BLACKWOOD
    Well shit, son. This was a tilt I was looking forward to. A pissed Blackwood and arrogant Harvey! This just exudes a pay-per-view caliber matchup, if it hasn’t already happened, in my opinion. The match was good and I’m somewhat surprised Blackwood lost although the argument could be made his mind was on other things.

    PREP WORK
    I’m scared of Jack Harmen. He was so unnecessarily rude to Christie Zane. Not going to lie, the lines of “Two buoys and an ugly face,” and “Film school reject” made me mark out a bit. Someone needs to contain Harmen before he actually ends someone’s life. I desperately want to see Murray hand Harmen his just desserts.

    CHOICES
    A nice segment heading into the WrestleUTA Title match. Ares knows Klein and D are unavailable but it was a nice shock to see Cayle walk out.

    WRESTLEUTA TITLE: CRIMSON LORD VS. ELISE ARES
    The hot start to this match was awesome but once Lord got rolling, Ares was broken. I can’t help but get behind Ares in this match despite her shortcoming. I’d like to see Ares overcome Lord eventually.

    GROUNDHOG DAY
    Blackwood is clearly harboring some injuries of his own. Ross’ blindside attack finally drops on both Adler and Blackwood, laying them out with a plate of glass, which, in my imagination, was sick. The faces are truly getting the hell kicked out of them this show.

    TAG TITLES: THE HOLLYWOOD BRUVS VS. REAPER CO.
    The match was solid and things took a turn for the worse for Mikey Unlikely when Scott Douglas showed his face and cost them the tag belts. Now I feel Unlikely has no choice but to accept Douglas’ challenge. It’s neat to see new tag team champions!

    ACTS OF DEFIANCE
    Graphic advertisement. Short and simple.

    FIST OF DEFIANCE: CAYLE MURRAY VS. SCOTT STEVENS
    I was worried for Cayle’s health going into this matchup. The writing throughout this matchup was terrific. The pace was fast and it really felt like Cayle was a true underdog because of all he had been through previously in the night. The ending was well executed as Cayle barely, and I mean barely hangs on to the title due to time expiration. As much as I want to see a healthy Cayle face Stevens for the title, I don’t think that’s going to happen. Glad to see one thing swung the Murray’s way tonight.

    THIS WILL ALL BE OVER SOON
    THE Jay Harvey with the shocker for a challenge. I feel that Jay just hates everyone and wants to challenge everyone... when it’s convenient for him to pick the bones of whoever (Blackwood or Murray or otherwise). I think Harvey would have to earn his right to face Murray by beating Stevens or put them in a triple threat but either way, it will be interesting to see whoever challenges next for the FIST.

    OVERALL
    This was the first true show I sat down and went through and I can see the dedication to well-developed storylines here. I always like staying positive and I think the action during the matches was great. Were there too many run-ins post matches? Maybe, but I understand things need to happen to progress the story. There were multiple wrestlers creating multiple rivalries throughout the show, which I thought gave it a chaotic, yet awesome atmosphere.

    STAR OF THE SHOW: Cayle Murray for showing resiliency and supporting his troops as well as defending his title.

    ROSS’ MUST-READ CHARACTER: Elise Ares. She’s the only one that can get away with flirting, humor, and almost upsetting the WrestleUTA Champion in the same show. She’s surrounded by deep characters like The D and Klein who add a unique dimension to all their antics.

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    Soooo behind on beef

    DEFTV 93 Beef /with uncut

    Celebration and good times
    Great little opener focusing on the aftermath and a story I am really looking forward to this arc with Cayle and whoever can collect on the bounty.

    Burns Vs Hoffman
    Good match with a good story told in it, but will that be enough to make Crimson give old Kiwi a shot?

    Follow the Lights
    Douglas determined to get back what belongs to him, but Mikey seems to be the least of his problems now. Seems the Reapers want to get a piece of Douglas now. Should be intersting to see how this develops

    Getting to Know you
    Some form of break here before this segment aired should of been added, considering Lance took a powder during Douglas/Reapers segment. Then he is right back on the stage again. Just a nitpick. Cris runs down his victory over Synz only to be interrupted by Butcher and we got ourselves a impromptu match - Pretty quick match, Synz tries to save but Charlie has one more trump card left. Mr. Ace is building quite the stable here.

    Talent Scout
    JFK making a offer to Paz about the Reapers joining WrestleUTA, given their actions recently they could accomplish their goal much faster. But will Paz and her clients accept?

    The Most Dangerous Man in Defiance
    Ross is great on the mic, the only issue I have with this is after all the beatings and being tossed off the stage at MaxDef. Gage pretty much does not sell any of his injuries from Ross. For someone that Ross has made his personal punching bag, a bit of touching on it just to keep the story moving on track would of helped. Just seems to make me think the events in the past never happened and these two are starting fresh.

    Stevens Vs Local talent
    The Gangrel poser was a interesting concept, typical squash match

    UNCUT Ross/Gage
    I loved how Gage interacted with others until he inevitably met his nemesis. Great set of segments there.

    No Sides
    So the bruvs want a answer, only to get Scott, who falls and goes boom by the Reapers, some gibberish is said, and then my boys are laid out wtf! Guess we all got our answer on their allegiance

    Wolves
    Andy just a big old grouch heh, the bounty clearly does not phased Cayle and it did not take long for someone to step up and try and collect in Mr. Bigsby

    Ring the Bell
    Harvey as only the Natural One can do rub the Wargames victory in front of all the Faithful - Wolf vs Race Vs Harvey - pretty quick matchup, and Harvey continues to keep rolling with the “W’s”

    Gears of War: last day
    Not sure what to say about this, have to wait and see where this goes

    A call for Justice
    Elise trying to go all legal to get a rematch with Jack, didn’t work out so well for her

    Crimson/Oscar/Mahogany
    Not gonna say much about my segment, Oscar put his spit shine on it thought it came together well. As for the Rich/Crimson match not going to lie after writing it I was not totally sold on it. Didn’t have a lot to go off of from the bio, or it had not occurred to me to check Angus and his relationship. Not my best work frankly.

    Murray Vs Diggs
    Boy, Andy has just had a really bad last few months, Diggs pulling off a upset over the Scot.

    Definitely United
    Scott seems willing to get that bounty.

    Murray vs Bigsby
    Nice match up really looking forward to seeing Cayle’s arc develop

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    intro - it sure was.

    i'll go away alright - stoovins kicks the shit out of murray, setting up the title match that will take place later on. stevens brings some history into this that i enjoyed. only con i have is i think the commentary staff would have been more "emotional" than they were.

    murray vs harmen - i enjoyed the overturned decision at the end. i feel like we don't see enough of that in real pro graps and fake pro graps. harmen keeps his heat and andy finally gets a win. tbh i haven't been a fan of the way andy has been used, it just seems as he is an automatic loss and beating him doesn't mean much. this kind of saves face for him. just my 2 cents.

    screwed - fucking solid man. i dug this promo a ton. no complaints at all. NJNP is cruising right now. they've been hot and this "feud" with the fuse bros has potential knowing the people involved.

    the cable - lol. classic mikey and steve. love how they turn the lighting situation into a way to plug a new hollywood bruvs product. mikey hit all his points, tag titles and addresses scott douglas and the soher title. good segment.

    p.o.e. vs thug 4 hire - the tag division in DEFIANCE is white hot and has been since i came aboard. i fucking wish wrestleuta has another team or two to add to this but that could be an overkill right now.

    you can run, you can hide, but you can't escape my love - jesus christ this was a long segment title. segment seemed a little long but it was effective. blackwood calls out chris ross and we have the grudge match of the century set up for the ppv. chris ross is the master of the no dq street fight. blackwood is a fucking fighter though and hasn't backed down at all.

    head of the snake - great promo from scott douglas. cut mikey down for his dastardly ways. scott douglas in these scenarios is a king. a great face and still rising. good job b.

    fuse bros vs njnp - HOT TAG! the match was good, fuse bros get the win but the real story is the return of team hoss. that tag division tho...

    the two bills - we wrote dings.

    break in case of emergency - hahaha. the d's dialogue in this is gold. defiance continues to unify and this is another case of it. nice comedy segment to break things up.

    harvey vs blackwood - yep.

    prep work - jack harmen is a savage. that's all i got to say about that.

    choices - i enjoyed this segment the more it went on. it progressed nicely, from crimson giving ares her options, then her teammates being knocked out in the back, ares stood strong and showed she is a fighter. crimson lord going through his different personalities is different but i liked it.

    ares vs crimson lord - ares showed her grit in this but ultimately she fell to the big man. crimson lord proceeded to kill ares and oscar burns. crimson lord is not a man, not a beast, just a fucking devastating force.

    groundhog day - chris ross continues to show he is a dangerous man. the segment starts off with blackwood and adler beefing then discussing ross and then speak of the devil. ross fucks them both up with glass.

    bruvs vs reaper co - i felt this was coming. reaper co. are your NEW defiance tag team champions. douglas essentially costs mikey and kendrix the titles, adding more fuel to their title match at the ppv.

    stoovins vs murray - jeez. cayle murray must have a rabbit's foot up his ass. great finish to a match imo. something you don't see too often in an e-fed. stevens looked strong throughout and murray keeps the title. good match guys.

    my segment - yep.

    great show guys. lots of matches announced for the ppv. the tag team division stole the show imo. invested in that story more than most. mikey and douglas is white hot as well. who layed out the pcp before ares title match? the show started off with a bang and finished with one.

    metzler would rate this show a 5 star affair.
    love ya pete

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ross View Post
    THIS WILL ALL BE OVER SOON
    THE Jay Harvey with the shocker for a challenge. I feel that Jay just hates everyone and wants to challenge everyone... when it’s convenient for him to pick the bones of whoever (Blackwood or Murray or otherwise). I think Harvey would have to earn his right to face Murray by beating Stevens or put them in a triple threat but either way, it will be interesting to see whoever challenges next for the FIST.
    harvey was one of the top guys in wrestleuta. he was a former wrestleuta legacy champion and fought for the wrestleuta world/heavyweight title. harvey is undefeated in his time in defiance. harvey holds a pinfall victory over bronson box. so if anyone should get a shot to take on the fist of defiance, harvey should be at the top of the list.
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    DEFTV 94 Beef

    Is this real life?
    Bruvs taking a break from the wrestling world, with some VR games, until Christie enters. Zane trying to set the record straight, but Mikey just shows off his victories since the invasion and his championships. Decent segment to recap Mikey/Douglas history with the SOHER.

    Team Hoss vs NJNP
    Pretty good matchup

    Gears of War: The End
    I am not really feeling these characters, pretty long video. Considering you got a beatdown ready to happen. For a tag team just debuing to get a quick “over” cheering from the fans seems a bit premature.

    Who says no?
    JFK sending a message to the Reapers, a threat I am sure the Bruvs will make happen.

    Burns vs Hightower
    Goliath vs David, and man Burns took a hell of a beating. Then surprises everyone with a upset! Is this enough to earn a shot from Crimson? Good match up

    A totes official summons
    Interesting segment, Elise trying to get a rematch with Jack. Chuckled a few times

    Long night
    Cayle, battered and beaten, the kid has heart. But the human body can only take so much before it gives up.

    Bruvs title defense
    Decent match up, but the way Scott took the title back seemed a bit heelish.

    Come On
    Jay wanting a match with someone from Defiance, and gets Elise.

    Harvey Vs Ares
    Good matchup, i wish i would of talked to Will or Bill about Ares condition after this match I would of kept the continuity when she showed up during CL/D match

    Aces Wild
    Ace introducing his crew and the new masked men, Ace’s Wild catchy name.

    Stevens Vs Murray
    Stevens shows his mean streak and Andy just is having a hard time hanging with the WrestleUTA talent. Decent matchup

    Round three
    Gage promising to stay out of the main event, and we finally start seeing more Defiance guys getting their shit together when it comes to this war. Nice prep segment for his match.

    Adler vs Blackwood
    Well it was a decent match, until Ross interfered. Boy the bad blood between these two is great. They both have built it up quite nicely.

    Crimson/PCP
    As I read through the card I realized I made a huge glitch, Crimson handed the title to Carla in the segment before the match, then in the match he had the title. Can’t believe i never caught that, also had i known what kind of beating Elise would of had I would of had her selling her ribs. That's on me for not getting a general run down on what happened with Elise earlier with Jay. Yes, I do realize I seem to type “Crimson” ALOT I will be making that change in the future.

    The color of war
    Reapers with a ominous message, to the tag champs and Douglas. It's a interesting concept to have a 3rd faction in this war, kind of reminds me so much of Sting/Savage time in the rafters.

    Douglas vs Reaper Green
    Good matchup, like how Douglas hit his finisher when before Reaper Green was able to react

    Questions
    Scott trying to get answers from Kerry, but a whole lot of nothing. Good story builder segment here.

    Cayle/Ross
    I am thoroughly enjoying this bounty story Cayle is in, Ross though match wise seems to be getting a bit too predictable. Seems every match he is in whether he wins or loses he always does a major beating afterwards. Ross pretty much does more than enough damage throughout the match to not need to do beatdowns after the match as well, just starting to become overkill for me. This was a nice touch of the babyface’s saving Cayle and finally Ross is driven off.

    Uncut 33
    Show Open
    Mikey unveils the Hollywood Heritage Championship or HOHER for short. God that the win at WarGames has given a bit more leeway for WrestleUTA to have things they never had. Like taking over this Uncut..nice touch

    Interrupted Transmission
    Haha, nice touch Douglas about to give a response about regaining the SoHer only for Mikey to cut off the feed before anyone can hear what he had to say..I like it!

    Look at my Nose
    Harvey vows to make Blackwood pay for disfiguring him. The doctor seemed amused when he repositioned Jay’s nose. He is lucky Harvey didn’t lay him out for it. Nice set up for next show

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