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    POST BATTLEMANIA FEEDBACK

    Is there going to be a thread for this? Once the show goes up, I think we should have a place to rate the show and for some of us who aren't actually a part of this fed, rate our experience?

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    Re: POST BATTLEMANIA FEEDBACK

    Hey Dave, sorry it took me so long to get back to you on this. I'd been busy writing the match so I haven't had the time to reply. Why not have everyone just reply to this thread?

    So what DID everyone think of BATTLEMANIA? It was the first (and probably only time at this point) time the Efed Guerillas podcast has hosted an interfed event. I'll submit my thoughts later, but let's hear yours first!
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    Re: POST BATTLEMANIA FEEDBACK

    It was an interesting experience for me, the first time that I have been in an event like this. It was kinda cool to see all the different styles of writing from everyone. I think perhaps a few of the "off-screen" issues detracted from the event somewhat in the long run. I won't go into detail about that because what can be said has already been said ad nausium. As for the match itself, it was fine and had some interesting spots. Particularly liked everyone ganging on Best as that seemed to be the running theme in a lot of the RPs. I was happy with how my character was handled, and felt like a good send off for his final match. On that note, I was pretty stoked at where he finished (tied second overall, if my assumption is correct?) albeit on my part I didn't think it was the strongest UGWC representation. That might just be the writers own worst critic coming out though. Constructively, I would say that there was a little too much time spent on entrances more than the actual fighting. That would be my constructive criticism for this, I would have put in a little more in-ring action.
    if this happens again next year, I really hope no more dramas happen to take away from the event.

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    Re: POST BATTLEMANIA FEEDBACK

    I enjoyed it can be tedious to read at times but I feel like that comes back to a long match and short attention span lol I'm disappointed with my showing cause I don't feel like it was my absolute best but that's all on me.
    I thoroughly appreciate the way my eternal rivalry with Ripper was incorporated and I'm stoked that I did even just marginally better than him lol

    I'd love to see another interfed event but instead of a giant battle royal, maybe have a couple feds represent with big blow off matches to be judged in this medium- I think that could be really entertaining
    Would be promotion for feds as well as showcasing talent

    Just a thought overall great event, I don't mind waiting for quality.
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    Re: POST BATTLEMANIA FEEDBACK

    Two words: Well, poo.

    A few more: 27th out of 30th. About what I expected. Not to sound egotistical, but I enjoyed the beginning exchange between Emevlas (spelled E-M-E-V-L-A-S, I kept noticing an 'I' in her first name there, but it's better than "Ermentrude Christmas-Time") and Mike Best. It gives me a sliver of hope for the future. Though, I figured she would've been in the match longer, going by Jesse's ranking of her (which was 17th, I believe but that's the only ranking I know of as of typing.)

    The match overall was all right, not terrible by any means. I agree with what Mr. Cyclone said in that I feel like there was more put into the entrances than some of the match. But what this event did right, it did really right.

    Am I butthurt over where I placed? No, I shouldn't be, nor am I. A lot of these guys have been doing this for years, and I've only been doing this for about three months, of course I won't do as well as they will. Like I've said before, I'm just glad to have been the first to sign up.

    I'll be around next year, though I'm not sure who I'll be using.
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    Re: POST BATTLEMANIA FEEDBACK

    I’m gonna give you my honest and true feelings regarding every aspect that I can think of when it comes to BATTLEMANIA. If you don’t consider this feedback then by all means don’t, but there’s plenty to get through here and I feel like it all needs to be said.

    I’m gonna try and keep name dropping to a minimum in instances where it might seem like I’m calling someone out, but I’m also going to make reference to several people directly. If you think you might get butthurt by reading some comments from some douchebag on the Internets then please skip my post.

    The Match
    A 30 man battle royal that all takes place in the space of 32 pages? Tell me again how this took 3 weeks (plus 4 days beyond the strict deadline that you set yourselves) to write?

    The action was lacklustre, the entrances were waaaaay too close together, eliminations were waaaaaay too understated and the whole things just felt like ‘pfft, here you go, we got something done at last.’

    In DEFIANCE James and I just managed to write a 28 page match in 2 weeks involving two people, and I’m not even trying to brag about that. That’s nothing. James has single handedly written a 50 page match in the same time frame with the same number of competitors. All I’m saying is imagine the length a match with 30 people in it could be. Sure it’d be more work, but if you’re organising it then you’ve got to be willing to put the man hours in.

    There were points in the match where absolutely nothing happened for “2 minutes.” There’s no denying that.

    “5…”

    “4…”

    “3…”

    “2…”

    “1!”

    “Charisma” by WASP. Boos from the crowd.

    T. Gordon: “Entering at number 20, from Stuart, Florida… Representing LoC… DERECHO!”

    Derecho came running out and slid into the ring, quickly rallying up some troops to break up Mark Kingston’s attempt at a double underhook powerbomb and usher him toward the ropes. Ian Bishop, Ataxia, and Matt Meyhu all joined in, trying to shove Kingston over the top rope. On the other side of the ring, J.B. Ronie, Eugene Dewey, Stacy Jones, and MJ Bell had conglomerated around Mushigihara.

    EGL: “Unfortunately, much like how many licks it takes to get to the Tootsie Roll center of Tootsie Pop, the world may never know if Kingston can lift Mushi for a double underhook powerbomb! But now two groups have formed to try to get both of the big men out!”

    Each group struggled to throw its target over the top rope. This went on for a couple of minutes.

    “5…”

    “4…”

    “3…”

    “2…”

    “1!”

    “King of the World” by Porcelain and the Tramps played in the Jungle.
    Derecho comes in and… nothing. Nothing happens until the next guy comes in. If I was in the crowd for those 2 minutes I’d be booing my arse off.

    Eliminations though were even worse. I hate to say it (mainly because he’s from HOW and HOW paid the Iron Sheik to tweet shit about one of DEFs staff members and a friend [srsly, like wtf was that about]) but Mike Best clearly thought of himself, and he might have been right, as the guy to beat. He was EGL’s pick to win at the start of the thing, and his elimination came… from someone grabbing his feet and pushing him over the top… Ok, forgetting the crap elimination that nobody in any royal rumble ever has ever suffered, yeah, sure. That’s a big moment. That deserves to be played up, right?

    No. He’s out now. That’s it, done.

    There were some big (tall and built like a brick shithouse) guys in this thing, why didn’t someone like Mushigihara get the chance to come in and instantly change the shape of the match by eliminating a couple of guys in quick succession? I don’t think that happened at all in the whole thing, and that’s a big problem for me, because a battle royal should have somebody go on a rampage and eliminate several people in a row. That just didn’t happen here.

    The Competitors
    If I had to describe the list of competitors in one word I’d have to use ‘Underwhelming’. That’s not meant as a knock on everyone else in the thing, I’m sure you’re all Ron Burgundy in your respective circles, but considering there were 29 other people involved and I’d heard of roughly 8 of them before (including the 2 others from DEFIANCE) I don’t think there is another word that I can use.

    Instantly the thing took a nose dive for me. Call me lazy, call me anything, I wasn’t about to go traipsing through 15 different feds to find out information on everyone involved. I wasn’t going to go around looking to see who was champion in their fed or where they fell in the undercard. I’d say that was a job for the judges, but when the judges host a podcast all they can say is “Then we’ve got XXX from ABC fed… I don’t know much about this guy.” Then you’ve got serious problems.

    There were big names lacking from this thing, and that really, really hurt it. Both from an attraction standpoint and from an excitement standpoint.

    That brings me onto the next section.

    The RPing
    I was not impressed. I’ve seen people saying the standard of the RPing was high for this, but I don’t agree. Early RPs were littered with spelling and grammatical mistakes. People posted RPs with uninspired settings and unimaginitive stories. People wrote absolute dross with ‘jokes’ that were there purely for shock value.

    To an outsider I’m aware I could be seen as guilty of it myself, but I tried to explain in my RP, to the best of my ability, that this was the first time I’d written an RP for the first time in 19 months and that I was going back to my roots by doing so. Hence the return to Eugene’s home. Hence the numerous references to 19 months. The problem there is, and I’m sure this is true for everyone else in the thing, those references can easily be lost on someone not familiar with the character.

    Did someone else do the same thing? I dunno, I don’t know everyone’s characters. Did the judges know what I was doing? Again, I dunno, I don’t know how familiar they are with Eugene.

    And therein lies the problem.

    With a 1 RP limit we had to throw all our eggs in one basket and try to get our character over, our intentions over, talk about our hopes and dreams and maybe talk a little bit of trash in the meantime. All in 3000 words as well. Now I know that’s plenty of words and very few people used all 3000, but the longer you ramble on the more chance you’ve got of losing your reader, and the more detail you put in the more chance you’ve got of confusing, or worse boring them.

    One of DEF’s handlers had a fantastic idea saying we should have had 2 RPs each with 1500 words. I’d like to expand that and say that we should have had two roleplay periods. One to post our opening statements and the second to reply to anything said to or about us in someone elses first and to expound on anything said in our first. It would have broken an awful lot up and made everything a heck of a lot more interesting.

    Without back and forth (trash talk didn’t count, remember) we all had the same thing to RP about, and everyone saying the same things gets pretty damn dull if you ask me.

    I know we’ve talked about the use of colour as well, but i’m going to provide my feedback for anyone that used colour in their RP. So here it goes.

    Stop it.

    If you need to use colour to indicate who is speaking in your RP then you’re doing it wrong. It’s not a writing method, it’s not a technique, it’s not a nuance, it’s lazy. Would that shit be accepted in Keegan’s English classes? No, it wouldn’t. You’d be told to write properly. There were RPs out there where, if you took the colour away from them, there were passages where you simply couldn’t tell who was talking.

    That’s not being creative, that’s laziness because you can’t think of anything more interesting to write than “XXX said” over and over again.

    The Production
    KEEP US INFORMED.

    If the deadline has passed and the show isn’t posted then try letting us know. We got an update on Friday saying Saturday or Sunday. That then turned into Monday, then Wednesday at the latest. Sure posts were made, but the number of people asking about it, much like the rent, was too damn high.

    Why was a promise made for Saturday or Sunday when the match was only half finished on Monday? Why was it only half finished on Monday? Why wasn’t it half finished 2 mondays earlier?

    The fact that we’re none the wiser proves communication was a problem during the production process, but it also serves as a spit in the face to all of us that worked to get an RP up before the ever so strict deadline that almost saw an RP disqualified for being one minute late.

    BTW, at the time, that was the right call. We were told it was a strict deadline, so removing the minute late RP was right by the rest of us that posted on time. I’m glad Lord Raab’s RP counted in the end because the 4 day delay in posting the show would have been a massive middle finger to his handler to tell him that he couldn’t compete for being one minute late but the writers of the match can pretty much do whatever they want.

    The Drama
    Ewrestling and drama go hand in hand, and they have done since the dawn of time. Everyone in the hobby has an ego and nobody likes to lose. That said there were people out there playing all kinds of games and posturing themselves in all kinds of ways to make it look like they either got screwed over, or that they didn’t care about late results and you guys take all the time you need to make the best possible show which I’m sure it will be *kiss kiss kiss*, or subtly calling people out on being ass kissers while sucking up themselves.

    The best course of action? Stay the fuck out of it. That goes for the handlers and that goes doubly for the judges.

    There was absolutely no need for Jesse to start the thread in response to Mike Best’s tweets about being screwed. There was absolutely no need for him to post his list of rankings and there was absolutely no need for him to engage Mike when he came back to defend himself and devolve the whole thing into a dick slinging/mud measuring contest.

    The Judging
    I can’t comment on this. The only way that I can is if every single judge posts every single thought of every single roleplay and makes all of them visible to everyone.

    We shouldn’t need to ask for feedback from individual judges, we should be given that information freely. We need to know that winners weren’t pulled from asses and that there was a reason someone was picked over another person. The only way to do that is to get feedback read through it. That puts an end to any possible drama as well because that’s like, your opinion man, and nobody can tell you an opinion is wrong.

    I know for a fact that I’m very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very eager to hear why Jesse rated me where he did. But I also want to know why he rated the person he thought won it as his winner, just as I am interested in hearing about everyone else from 2 through 29.

    Regardless of where I can I believe the right person won it. SJH did a great job with his RP and I don’t think there was anyone out there as entertaining, as funny, or as gripping as him. The right person won the top prize and that’s the main thing. But everything else needs work before you should consider even doing this again, let alone increasing the number of competito

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    Re: POST BATTLEMANIA FEEDBACK

    Just here to point out that Hart won Battlemania and LoC's Legacy Championship in the same week.

    So ... this is the end then, huh? I still had so much to accomplish. Oh well, world couldn't last forever.

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    Re: POST BATTLEMANIA FEEDBACK

    I love all the piling on and the "I would have done it better." There were problems and differences of opinions as there are in every big event, whether in a fed or interfed.

    And Ben, you know I'm a fan, but if you "told my people to NOT be in this," then you don't really have any standing to post feedback. You do a great job with UTA, but I don't blow in there and poke holes in what I might not like.

    If you didn't like it, then move on to next thing and make a mental note that you don't want to do BATTLEMANIA again. The players were clear, the rules were clear and no one is "owed" anything beyond the prizes that were promised. This isn't "teach you to roleplay" or "stroke your ego"-land; it was a competition. The judges don't owe anything beyond judging how they saw fit. They don't owe you a treatise on whether they like or don't like colored roleplay or whether they thought you broke the fourth wall or why they ranked you 26th instead of 27th. Because all that really boils down to for some of you is you want a reason to argue or a reason to go back into your corner and talk shit about what they said.

    We've got a few folks in this thread who love to tell people to man up or to "do something," and then shit all over it when they don't like something. You don't like it? Fine. You want to say your piece respectfully? Fine. Beyond that, I'll make sure to give you what you're owed.

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    Re: POST BATTLEMANIA FEEDBACK

    Okay, I've kept quiet from defending myself from what some people have said here because I'm not one to actively seek out conflict but since this is now over and because people are still running their mouths, I'm going to speak up.

    I am one of these people who used colour in my RP, I don't do it to try and make it look better or whatever, I use colour because I fucking want too and I have always done it and really, only till I came here, there seems to be a big fucking huge issue with it.

    Now I've always been a rather modest person when it comes to my writing in the feds I've been in, but Ben, how fucking dare you say that most of the people writing in this match are shitty uncreative writers. This is a fucking hobby and people should be entitled to write however they fucking want without having to deal with dick heads like you completely putting them down just because they use colours or whatever. Who the fuck made you the king of what makes good writing good?

    By the sounds of it, a lot of people here take this 'game' way too fucking seriously and are all bursting fucking blood vessels over petty little things like people using colour in their RP's. Grow the fuck up...if people want to use colour, they have every fucking right too, if you're not a fan, fair enough, if you're going to mention that you don't like it, explain it in a pleasant mature way rather than just stating that everyone who does it is an uncreative, shit writer. It's unprofessional and unnecessary.

    I was really looking forward to this, I thought it was going to be a cool thing to be involved in and I was interested to see how other writers from other feds thought of my RP's. I didn't come here to get completely fucking ridiculed and referred to as a shitty uncreative writer just because I used fucking colour.

    If this thing does continue (which it probably won't because of how many fucking arse holes have been bitching, whining and complaining about tons of shit that doesn't fucking matter because again, this thing is a fucking game!) at first I was considering signing up for it again, but unless there are some different people signing up for the next one if there is a next one, you know, mature people who don't completely stomp over people like they're a pile of dog shit just because they want to use colour in their RP's, maybe I will sign up.

    Quite frankly though, all this shit posted on this thread along with the crap that happened earlier between Jesse and Mike Best has put me off being involved in anything like this again.

    So in closing, thanks to the people in charge for giving me this opportunity, I did have some fun at the beginning of it, now I'm going to go back to the fed I'm currently in, you know, a place that doesn't shit all over you for using colours in RP's and are actually full of mature adults who realize this whole thing is a game.

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